HPAC/ACVL

Fred Wilson

Re: Travelling? http://www.hpac.ca/pub/?pid=83

Update...

Travel Medical Insurance Tips Cont…

1. Ensure that you have, with you, the (toll free?) overseas phone number by which you contact your Work Insurance Plan Provider / Travel Insurance Provider, and that all those accompanying you know where to find such.

2. Check into what dollar figure for (prior approved) medical expenses is included as perks with your Credit Card.
- It can sometimes take time for any travel medical coverage provider's payment scheme to kick into gear.

Example: $20,000 fatality repatriation pre-pay requirement.
See: http://www.paraglidingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=70164

- If your Credit Card does not include Travel Medical Insurance, upgrade it to a plan that does.

3. Be aware that you may be required to pay in advance yourself - at least to begin with - and later claim back your expenses from the insurance provider.
- so if you have a low credit $ limit on your Credit Card, phone in to Jack it WAY up before you go.

4. For Foreign Resident AAA Members visiting Canada:
You can, if you drop in immediately, purchase CAA "Visitors to Canada Travel Medical Insurance" valid in the province you purchase it in, and all across Canada.
(Terms and conditions vary in each province.)
BCAA (British Columbia) covers recreational Hang Gliding and Paragliding, but not Commercial (Instruction) or Racing. (Competitions.)

5. For those of us in Canada…
CAA Travel Medical Insurance is very inexpensive and very good for out of province and / or out of country coverage for Hang Gliding and Paragliding.
- I highly recommend it… whether or not you have a private work plan. Example: BCAA Travel Medical Insurance
(Automobile Association Members traveling through Canada can purchase it at any CAA office.) (Note that it is only valid out of the province you bought it in AND the province you live in.)

Again, BCAA (British Columbia) covers recreational Hang Gliding and Paragliding, but not Commercial (Instruction) or Racing. (Competitions.)
(Terms and conditions vary in each province.)

Reading Resources:
1. Travel insurance and extreme sports: How Canadians can protect themselves:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/travel-insurance-and-extreme-sports-how-canadians-can-protect-themselves-1.2618483

Bottom Line Punch Line:
For those of you that shrug at the thought of Travel Medical Insurance - this is a bill for just six nights in a US Hospital.

Fred Wilson

Travel Medical Insurance Providers that include Recreational Hang Gliding and Paragliding and non-professional competitors.

Always make sure that it covers us as Canadians.
You won't be covered under a foreign broker's policy.

Source: Hang Gliding and Paragliding Assoc. of Canada (HPAC) on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/HPAC.ACVL/permalink/10156654643040157/

1. All Risk Insurance: 1-855-929-8846
https://sell.tugo.com/consumerexpress-app/VerifyPartner.b2c?pc=WIN400
http://all-risks.com/get-a-quote/
(Insurance provided by Travel Underwriters (TuGo))
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2. BCAA 1-888-268-2222
(For BCAA Member British Columbia Residents)
https://www.bcaa.com/insurance/travel/overview/travel-insurance-products

BCAA
(For AAA member foreign national residents or AAA member out province residents.)
If you schedule a stopover in British Columbia, BCAA provides Travel Medical Insurance that
includes HG & PG (excluding professional paid competitors) to all CAA members.
It is not valid in your province of residence or in British Columbia. You have to physically drop into
one of their Branch offices and do it in person. It is NOT sold On-Line (or by phone, mail or email) to out of province residents.
https://www.bcaa.com/Apps/Travel/VisitorToCanada/Start

BCAA excludes Hang Gliding / Paragliding "while participating in, training or practising for any sport as a professional athlete."
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3. Ingle International: 1-800-360-3234 Email: Relay@ingleinsurance.com
https://www.ingleinternational.com/en/travel-insurance/canadian-travellers
Quote: https://www.ingleinternational.com/en/travel-insurance/special-risk
(Insurance provided by Travel Underwriters (TuGo))
- You are not qualified for the insurance if over the age of 59 years.
- "You HAVE to be certified and have to fly with a professional instructor or that level pilot to get covered."
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4. Medipac Travel Insurance: 1-888-633-4722 E-mail: admin@medipac.com
http://www.medipac.com/travel-insurance
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5. SecuriGlobe special risk travel insurance. 1-866-550-2444 Email: web@securiglobe.com
https://www.securiglobe.com/en/travel-insurance-products/special-risk-travel-insurance/
https://www.securiglobe.com/en/contact-us/
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6. Seven Corners Insurance: 1-800-335-0611 E-mail: CS@sevencorners.com
https://www2.sevencorners.com/insurance-for-travelers/
Quote: https://www2.sevencorners.com/get-your-price/
Travel Medical Insurance for foreign nationals visiting the United States.
Emergency Travel Assistance: 1-800-690-6295 Collect: 0.-317-818-2808 E-mail: Assist@sevencorners.com
Claims Questions: 1-800-335-0477 Collect: 0-317-575-2656 E-mail: Claims@sevencorners.com
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7. Sun Life Canada:
https://www.sunlife.ca/ca/Insurance/Travel+insurance?vgnLocale=en_CA
Contact: https://www.sunlife.ca/ca/Customer+support?vgnLocale=en_CA
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8. Travel Guard: 1-866-648-8422
http://www.travelguard.ca/travel-insurance_2011_330742.html
Contact: https://www.travelguard.ca/contact-us_2011_331107.html
Quote: https://buy.travelguard.com/tgi2/proc/stateselector.aspx?br=directca&rg=ca
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9. Travel Underwriters (TuGo)
https://www.tugo.com/
Exclusions:
a) Only if you are a professional athlete (majority of income from sport), and scuba diving without proper certification.
-TuGo does not mention competitions, it mentions participation, training or practicing for any sport as a professional.
- It defines professional as receiving financial compensation from their "participation" in the sport.
b) TuGo policy states an age limit of 90. Ask your broker.
Options: https://www.tugo.com/en/travel-insurance/canadians/
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10. World Nomads:
http://www.worldnomads.ca/
Quote: http://www.worldnomads.com/travel-insurance/?_ga=1.85042201.1025427149.1453199192

Fred Wilson · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 01:57 am Post subject:

HPAC 3d Party Insurance is Valid World Wide. Info is on the HPAC Insurance Section of our website.
Good idea to print a copy of the Insurance (Binder Cover at least) posted there.
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Some countries, like Canada, require that you purchase membership with their National association. (Australia is one example.)
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UPDATE:

Mark Forbes, USHPA Treasurer and Insurance Chairman is answering USHPA Insurance related questions here.
FYI: - the entire thread starts HERE.

Cont... From: "Mark G. Forbes" USHPA Treasurer and Insurance Chairman
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December, 2012 11:01:43 PM

1. USHPA insurance is valid Worldwide, for vacation trips, for USA Resident Citizens whilst flying abroad
- as long as claims are filed in a court of US jurisdiction.
- This clause is Not valid for USHPA members permanently resident outside of the coverage area.

2. USHPA Full or Temporary Membership purchased by Foreign Resident Pilots (ie Canadians) is valid in USHPA coverage areas which include the US, Puerto Rico, Canada, but NOT Mexico.

- Canadian pilots are covered, but our coverage isn't an exact match for the HPAC policy.
Particularly, you have landowner coverage by default, and ours is by specific named insured.
- Limits may be different as well... I haven't reviewed the HPAC policy lately.

MGF

Fred Wilson · Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 06:13 pm Post subject:

Can the HPAC source Travel Medical Insurance that is valid for Hang Gliding and Paragliding Competition "racing"?
That is excluded now everywhere I have asked. (It could become an additional revenue stream for our Insurance Provider or...)

And / or for commercial flying such as prize events and / or Instructors teaching out of Country / out of Province?

See related thread at:
http://www.paraglidingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=53275

DRAFT Question Bank for an Canadian Travel Medical Insurance Providers:
(Please answer each question individually.)

Does your Travel Medical Insurance include Canada Wide coverage for:
1. Recreational Hang Gliding and Paragliding.

2. Hang Gliding and Paragliding Amateur Competition participation. (Racing)

3. Hang Gliding and Paragliding Competition participation (Racing)
where prize money is involved but where the Insured Person does not earn 50% + of their annual income from the sport.

4. A Professional Sport Rider for Instructors teaching overseas.

5. Does your "Visitor to Canada Travel Medical Insurance" include sport activities such as ours?
If so, is it again Canada Wide? And does it again cover:
a) Recreational Hang Gliding and Paragliding.

b) Hang Gliding and Paragliding Amateur Competition participation. (Racing)

c) Hang Gliding and Paragliding Amateur Competition participation (Racing) where prize money is involved

d) A Professional Sport Rider for Instructors teaching overseas (IE here in Canada.)

Finally:
1. Does your Travel Baggage Insurance include coverage for Aircraft (gliders) and Aircraft Instrumentation?

2. What other High Risk Sports are covered / excluded.

3. Who is your Underwriter?
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2013 – 2 Travel Medical Insurance Providers

Recreational, Competition and have a Professional Athlete Rider.
BCAA Travel Medical Insurance http://www.bcaa.com/insurance/travel/overview/travel-insurance-products
Saskatchewan CAASK http://caask.ca/

Mountain Equipment Co-Op?
Mountain Equipment Coop. MEC provides 2 free days, as often as you like.

BC Credit Union?
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Recreational, Competition – but no Professional Athlete Rider.

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Recreational only: – No Amateur Competition or Professional Competition or Professional Athlete Rider.

CAA Niagara http://www.caaniagara.ca/
(Underwritten by Royal & Sun Alliance PQ) http://www.rsagroup.ca/royalsun/en/
CAA's AMA Alberta under their Tranquility Travel Medical Insurance Policy.http://www.ama.ab.ca/travel/travel-medical-insurance
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Travel Medical Insurance which exludes Hang Gliding & Paragliding altogether:

a) All Sport Insurance + TIC Travel Insurance + Manulife and Sutton Special Risk + The Canadian Athlete Insurance Program (CAIP).
All Sport Insurance does not insure high risk sports including hang gliding activities so we are unable to assist.

Gina Bennett – CIP, CAIB Vice President / Underwriting Manager
All Sport Insurance Marketing Ltd.
507-1367 West Broadway Vancouver, BC V6H 4A7
Direct: 604-737-3023 Tel: 604-737-3018 Toll Free: 1-877-992-2288 Fax: 604-737-307
Email gina@allsportinsurance.com
Visit our new website at www.allsportinsurance.com

b) The CAAManitoba;
+ CAASO Southern Ontario; (Underwritten by CAA)

+ CAA Quebec
CAA Quebec Travel Insurance does not cover any of the below mentionned high risk sports.

Carole Potvin | Représentante en assurance | CAA-Québec
Tél. 514 861-7111 p. 3308 | 1180, rue Drummond, Montréal (Québec) H3G 2R7
1 888-296-0001 | Téléc. 514-861-2644 | capotvin@caaquebec.com| www.caaquebec.com

c) CAA National Insurance
CAA and its clubs do not underwrite extreme sports of any kind.
Ian Jack
MANAGING DIRECTOR, COMMUNICATIONS AND GOVERNMENT RELATIONS /
DIRECTEUR GÉNÉRAL, COMMUNICATIONS ET RELATIONS GOUVERNMENTALES
ijack@national.caa.ca

Tim Keogan · Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 01:19 pm Post subject: Travel Insurance

On Nov 25, 2015 I checked with 2 offices of the CAA in Calgary regarding travel insurance. Both offices said that PG was excluded in their coverage. Does anyone know of an insurance provider that covers PG? Tim Keogan

Fred Wilson · Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 07:53 pm Post subject:

Message forwarded from BCAA: (repeated from above.)

AAA Members ma buy "Out of Province Resident" or "Foreign Resident' Travel Medical Insurance from BCAA at one of their offices on your way through British Columbia.
So schedule a stopover in British Columbia, BCAA provides Travel Medical Insurance that includes HG & PG (excluding professional paid competitors) to all CAA members.
It is not valid in your province of residence or in British Columbia. You have to physically drop into one of their Branch offices and do it in person.
It is NOT sold On-Line (or by phone, mail or email) to out of province residents.
https://www.bcaa.com/insurance/travel/overview/travel-insurance-products

Tim Keogan · Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:12 am Post subject:

Thanks for the reply Fred. I happen to be in BC now so I will look in to it. BTW I think that Sun Life travel insurance does not exclude PG for recreation. Regards

Clive Beddall

Hi ALL,

I am looking for Insurance for a trip to Australia winter 2017
Just want to let you know that 2x of the options listed in this thread are currently No-GO.

1. CAA does not include HG PG Hot Air Ballooning or ANY aerial sports that involve you as pilot in command (PIC).
They also counted out Tandems with an instructor etc. noting that the PIC instructor have health issues and cause you
to become PIC (??) Scuba Diving is covered. Bungee Jumping OK

2. World Nomads - does not cover HG or Paragliding PIC or Tandems - it took quite a bit of poking around
to discover this. They actually represent them selves on the internet as the Insurance Company for travelers who like extreme
action BUT, they have a massive fine-print page which states they do not cover various things that are high-risk.

These were my 1st choices & I struck out with both.

Does anyone have updates for valid companies in 2016/2017?

Thanks in advance!

Clive Beddall

clivebeddall@yahoo.ca

Clive Beddall

Hi ALL,

Here is the General Exclusions info from RSV (Sun Life Travel Insurance)

23. Participation:
a) as a professional athlete in a sporting event including training or practice. (Professional means a person
who engages in an activity as one’s main paid occupation);
b) in any motorized race or motorized speed contest;
c) in scuba diving (unless you hold a basic SCUBA designation from a certified school or other licensing
body), hang-gliding, rock climbing, paragliding, skydiving, parachuting, bungee jumping, mountaineering,
rodeo, heli-skiing, any downhill skiing or snowboarding outside marked trails or any cycling racing event
or ski racing event.

Another Strike-out!

Cheers

Clive

Clive Beddall

Hi ALL,

Here is the General Exclusions info from RSV (Sun Life Travel Insurance)

23. Participation:
a) as a professional athlete in a sporting event including training or practice. (Professional means a person
who engages in an activity as one’s main paid occupation);
b) in any motorized race or motorized speed contest;
c) in scuba diving (unless you hold a basic SCUBA designation from a certified school or other licensing
body), hang-gliding, rock climbing, paragliding, skydiving, parachuting, bungee jumping, mountaineering,
rodeo, heli-skiing, any downhill skiing or snowboarding outside marked trails or any cycling racing event
or ski racing event.

Another Strike-out!

Cheers

Clive